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Natalie Zamczyk - January 30, 1984

This is more important. You are Jew in your heart more than anybody else. That's what, if you can read Hebrew or Jewish talk, that's nothing. That hasn't got no meaning. You are Jew because you paid, with you, with everything, you are a Jew. So that's all. I didn't want to bother him too much. So he started now, three, four years ago he started, you know.

Yeah.

He started and he reads and he, he, he was reading for--from Torah. I was proud, you know. I never was religious, never, specially, you know. But I was proud what he accomplished. Yeah.

Huh.

So you know everything about me. There are lots of things here I could say. So do you think this was interesting? Yeah. Because I know that all those people were coming. You see, those German uh, bosses what I have, they were treating me very nice. They never knew that I was Jewish. Well, I have to tell you one thing. It's very interesting. This boss what I have in ???, you know.

What was his name? Do you remember?

Mr. Linderman. His, his, I don't know, uncle was a famous Linderman, he was a big, big general or something. He was very nice to me. When I left my boy during the uprising, I didn't know where he is, I went to see him, you know. Because it's a whole story. I didn't quit plain. I, I, I lied to them. Was whole story because he wouldn't let me go, you know. I had to go back for paper and he wanted to rehire me, he didn't wanted let me go, you know. But I had to go because I was afraid to be with my son there, you know. Was dangerous. So he, so he, after the war, he was nice man, you know, he treat me nice. But one thing was terrible, you know, because he was a Nazi. But was nice to people, you know. That he, that uh, after the war I wanted to know if he's alive, you know. I wanted to tell him that I am Jewish, but I didn't. So I have his address from home because I was his private secretary. So I wrote letter to his wife, you know, to Germany. So I wrote the letter that I want to know if Mr. Linderman came back home. And I got a beautiful letter from him. I told you this, I got a beautiful letter from him that he came back, that--no, letter from him, but also a letter from his wife that she is visiting her husband in jail, he is in jail, you know, for the German. And she is visiting him and she took the letter to him and he know read that I secretary and he wrote me the letter. I, I should have the letter. He wrote to me that uh, that you, dear Mrs. Trask, it's so nice to hear from--like this, in German. And uh, I am still in jail, I, you know, very well that I didn't do nothing wrong to nobody. That I was work--that I was the director in this company and I never did nothing bad. When I could, I could help people. You knew because you are my secretary. And maybe you could write a letter--and he give me the--that I help the people, that I never did nothing wrong and maybe I could join my wife and be at home.