Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Natalie Zamczyk - January 30, 1984

Post-War Life

And how long did you stay in Krakow?

In Krakow, I left Krakow in 1949, beginning of, in February, in uh, January or February, I don't know, something, 1949. And uh, I went to Paris for one year. And uh, and I went to Paris for one year and, and... Oh, one thing I wanted to tell you. This was before when I already was home in Krakow, I got a telephone call from Mr. Kazinski, you know who is Mr. Kazinski. I drew this. Mr. Kazinski crying terrible, I was called to post office. That his son, the one what was, gave me the job in the ??? that he got arrested because somebody told the Russian, you know, that, the government, that he was talking bad about Russians. And they arrested him and the prosecutor said that he's going to send to Siberia or something. He had a wife and children. And this poor man was crying bitterly on the phone that... He never told the children that I am Jewish, but now he told them that I am Jewish and the only one what can help him would be Mrs. Trask, because he called me Mrs. Trask. So I said to him, okay, I don't know if I can help you, but I'm going to go. I didn't have money even for the, because I was a year there, you know. I didn't have even the money for the trip, but I, my cousin lend it to me, the one that was working for me in the office, and I went to Warsaw. And he gave me the address to get to the prosecutor and I went to the prosecutor building in Warsaw and there was lots of prosecutor. This prosecutor I knew that he was Jewish. There were lots of Jewish prosecutor. They--what they maybe came from Russia and during the war in Russia, you know. And I, should I tell this or not?


And I went this to the, to the prosecutor. He told me, Mr. Kazinski, nobody can get to this prosecutor. He don't want to talk to nobody. He said he knows enough that's, enough. And I went to the office and I told the girl that I want to see the prosecutor. I forgot the name. So she said to me, I'm sorry, why you want to see him, you have appointment? And I said, no I haven't got appointment, I am out of town and I want to see the prosecutor. She said, well, but uh, uh, what case? I have to tell him. So I said Kazinski, Yitzak Kazinski, that was his son. So she said, oh, he is not going to talk to you about this case. There's no question about. He's not going to. So I said, I have to talk to him. Even for two minute. She said, no, I'm sorry. She went to the office, she said, no, he's not talking to nobody special about this case. I said, I am not going to go out. I am sitting here, you know. And I sit, and maybe two hours later he went out from the office. I didn't know that's him. He went to that, to her uh, table and he said something to her. And I got up, and I went, Are you the prosecutor? He looked at me, he said, yes. I said I like to talk to you for five minutes, not longer, please. What about? So I said about this. Oh no, I'm not talking. He said, his case is finished; he will get what he deserve. So I said to him, no, I came from Krakow and I want to talk to you and you have to give me at least five minutes, please, because otherwise I, I'm not going to go out from here. I will stay this all, all night and day.

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