Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Natalie Zamczyk - January 30, 1984

Warsaw III

And there was I living in Warsaw. And it was very hard, it was very hard sometimes because you hear that in next house, two houses they found a Jewish child there what was hiding and they took the owner with the child and they shot him together. And my Mr. Kazinski--I wanted to move, he said no, you stay there. That's all. He was wonderful. He even wanted to marry me if this would help. I said, no. When he would marry me that would be worse, because the people would think, why a young woman marry a man like this. Was not poor man, but was, you know. So I said no, that's not right. So we heard something, this was uh, we heard, this was already '44, you know. We heard that something is going on, something was not clear, you know. Jews are already gone this time, there wasn't Jews already. So we heard that something is wrong going on, you know uh. The German looks like uh, they maybe, because the Russian were coming, the Russian were coming. But the Russian were coming and they were staying in one place. So one day--we, they let us go from work and they said that uh, they call us in few days later, you know. It was after, this was after uh, uh, summer, after summer, yeah, because I went on vacation with my son. Vacation. I had vacation but I was at home. I was going to beach. So, you know, so it was uh, I, I went, I, yeah, we were--I was staying home. And they told us to come certain day, two days later uh, to come for different products, because this was a ??? what had everything and give us some products you know butter, and uh, sugar and flour, you know, everything. Whatever we can, that we have to come in the morning there to the warehouse and you get the products that you have something at home. And I said to my--to Mr. Kazinski, you know what, I will go because uh, you hadn't got nothing at home and I haven't got really lots of money to buy, so I go. So he said, no, you don't go. I said, yes, I didn't even dress. I had old skirt and I put clothes and a coat and I took, and he gave me a briefcase, beautiful briefcase, heavy one, and another thing and I went. And I went and there I had to stay in line, they give us different things and I had full the suit...uh, briefcase and another case. And I met a girl there and she said, listen, why don't you uh, wait for me, we go together. I said to her, you know, I want to go and stop, stop by my friend. The friend was the one who was helping me also, she had a Jewish girl there also. Uh, the parents got killed in uh, ghetto and somebody brought the girl, you know, to them. And they loved children, they never had children and they took care of the child.


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