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Natalie Zamczyk - January 30, 1984

And uh, this Mr. Kazinski, that's the father of the, he wanted to know what I am doing. He, he was calling to my girlfriend, to my other friend. And he told her that he wants to talk to her. And she went to him, and she told, and she told her, tell me the true, is Mrs. Trask Jew, because they are talking there, because I left already. They are talking there that she run away because she was Jewish, there where I saw. So she said to him, I can't tell you this, I don't know. You want to talk to her when she comes back I will tell her to come and see you. I hadn't got--I didn't have place to stay. So he said, yes, so she said, go to him. He's an honest man and I know that he's not going to hurt you. So I went there, he was an older man. This time for me he was very old because he was sixty-five years old, maybe sixty-seven. He was old man, you know, now he's young man. So I went there and he was telling me, I heard a, I went there to see my daughter and there they are telling that you are Jew and you run away, you know. So he told me, when you are Jewish, I want to help you and your child. I am an old man and I want to do something good. He wasn't very religious, I don't go much to church, but I feel that when somebody is in danger another human being, you have to help him. And this, there's a place when, here's a man who was working on the river, like a sailor, you know, but a nice man. And he said, that's where I want to go. Tell him the truth. When you are not Jewish, I take everything back, you can rent place, you can go whenever you, I'm not scared. Is not a danger. But when you are Jewish, you tell me and I will tell him. My son--he had two sons and a daughter--they wouldn't...three sons, I'm sorry--they wouldn't know nothing about, this is our secret. And I didn't say a word, and then I start to cry so hysterically. ??? And I went there. And in this time his son was working for laundry truck, because ???, you know, this was like, before the war the company was very big, was uh, uh, like uh, farm you know they have all the products, you know, they were selling, you know. And uh, he was working there for years and years as a bookkeeper. So I, I, so he talked to the son, but he didn't tell him that I'm Jewish, and the son said oh, they're looking for stenographer German here. And I went there and I got the job. You know, I didn't have to worry about job. And I got a different job, you know. And this was a wonderful place to work and everything was good. I was, I was living at the old man house and he was wonderful to my son. My son was home all the time because I couldn't send him to school. So he was home close and I brought him books from library to read and I taught him a little bit uh, mathematic, whatever, you know, I read with him and so forth. In afternoon the old man always took him for a walk and the neighbors knew it. He said that he's my cousin's son, he's calling me grandfather, you know. He was wonderful to us.