Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Natalie Zamczyk - January 30, 1984



So they didn't wanted me anymore, you know. So they told me story that something, they talked something too much about it. So I had to get out. So imagine, so where I could go? I had uh, to go to Warsaw. You know, the only place. I never knew Warsaw, I never was in Warsaw before. Sometimes I wanted to go for a trip, my husband wouldn't let me because he was afraid, you can't go by yourself, it's dangerous. But this time, I, I left. So I had to leave and I left with my boy. I didn't know where I'm going. I had some addresses what I had some friends there, made friends there. And the lady what I lived, what I rented the place, the room by her, she gave me address of her cousin. So I at least had something. So I left for Warsaw and we came there. And uh, I went to the lady what I have the address, but she said, okay you can stay this night but not next night. Well, short in this that I managed from one to another, the addresses. I managed somehow. I was only, all together I think four weeks or six weeks in Warsaw and I look for a job and uh, and I look in the paper and I found that a company, pharmaceutical company in uh, by Warsaw, hour by train from Warsaw, they need a stenographer, actually personal secretary, but with, knowing stenography. So I went there to the office, to the Warsaw. I found out when the director is coming, and I make appointment and I came there and he interview me. He hired me. But he said that I have to live in ???, the--not in Warsaw, because there is his castle and there he is managing everything. And there I have to be his personal secretary, because he is only in Warsaw only once a week he comes, or twice a week, but very... So I took the job and I went there. It was a wonderful place to work. He was a very intelligent young man, maybe forty-five this time. And he liked me very much. He had his wife and his children in Germany. But I was lucky because he has a, he had a friend there, you know, the housekeeper, the main housekeeper, you know. She, she was watching him, you know, so I was very grateful to her, you know. I was young woman this time. And uh, so he was very happy with me, and. But I was working in a different building in an office, not far. And he always called me and I was dictating. And there in the office were working two men, old bookkeeper and young helper and I was the one. And again, they have a pharma...there in ??? they had a factory. They were making all the pharmaceutical, you know, uh, like syringe.


Not in the, you know, for ins...


Not insulin, different thing.


Is everything for animals.

Oh, all right.

All for animals and for horses, you know. This time Germany used lots of horses...


...in the war, you know, I don't know. They, that's all for animals, you know.

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