Tell me something. Before we talk, before you tell me about that, tell me about when, when they rounded you up in Mlawa for the trains.
Yeah.
H...How did they do that?
Well, you just heard a name. Then the Jewish police come and they took all the transports to the Germans, you gotta go. You're thrown...You're thrown in on, you walk to the trains. They tell, tell me come, they tell me run.
What do you remember about the train transport?
Going very slow, must be seventy-five, eighty people in a, in a train.
With your mother and your brother? Anybody else from your family on the train? What was it like in there?
It was like, like hell. Like you want to be dead, better off. It was very hard to describe, you know, how parents feeling, you know. When I come to Auschwitz, see, there was all Jewish people there. They come before us, right before the car. They used to put a number, you know, here, with a, with a pen.
Tattoo.
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