Was it, was it Pilsudski who was the...
Pardon?
Pilsudski.
Wife: Pilsudski.
Pilsudski. Yeah, he was a, he was a military hero after the war, yeah.
Wasn't he president?
He was a...
Wife: President?
Well, I don't know that time if he was a president uh, he was a...
Wife: Yeah, honey.
the head of the Polish, everything was like uh, uh, big hero. He was a part of the country. I don't know if at that time if he was a president also, but Pilsudski was a big--everybody thought of him highly.
Do you remember when he died?
I, I...
Did everything change when he died?
I don't remember exactly much about him, I was alive then.
Wife: ???
Yeah. But I didn't, I know he was not openly like the other guys, the Polish guys, like he was. He was a little bit more liberal.
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