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Marvin Kozlowski - August 28, 2002

Machine guns. Was it Krupp?

Pardon?

Krupp? Was it Krupp?

What do you mean Krupp?

Krupp. The munitions factory, was it by Krupp? K-r-u-p-p.

Wife: No, it wasn't.

It wasn't Krupp.

Wife: No, it was in, in Radom

The munition factory before the war.

Wife: The munition factory in Radom.

But they made, extended to a different--so uh, I was working there and uh, it was uh, hard work. I, in the mornings you get a little bit coffee. Black coffee, black water, black water, hot water. You didn't, you were working--you asked me how the Polacks were--you were working between certain--most of 'em were the Jews running everything except the, the foremen, the managers were Polacks. And they washed, they washed their hands off. Normally he should help out. I was running five machines. So uh, they had to set up the machines. You had to sharpen the tools to--in order to make the part of the gun. So you had to go and exchange it for sharp ones. But they had to be set up. So that's--it was their job. If you wanted to wait for them, you would be beaten like a dog. Because instead to come right away, they would come an hour later. You missed the production Okay, okay, so uh, I learned--I did it myself. I had to have certain amount of production. I made over the production. I got a slice of bread for lunch and I ate that slice of bread walking around the machines changing the parts. Uh, in the--then we went home, we walked home with the SS behind, with dogs through the,

Wife: Barracks.

through the, uh...

Camp.

Through the concentration camp. There we were watched. Every week we had Appells, like uh, Saturday or Sunday--or Sunday maybe one day we wouldn't work, so we had an Appell. In Polish, I don't know in English what it is.