SK: The only ones that punish ??? was the Russians. The Russians, they don't fool around. As a matter of fact, what we were ??? the Russians was building...
LK: You sure you don't want some coffee?
SK: ???
LK: ???
SK: I, I...
LK: You sure you don't need cake? Some cake?
SK: With a little ice cream.
LK: With a little ice, ice cream? Would you like a little ice cream and a coffee? Which one?
SK: We used to fill the boxcar with German prisoners. The German prisoners ??? "Cigarette, cigarette, cigarette, cigarette we should give you cigarette," and went around the boxcar with a gun ??? and the Russians used to call out, "Forget the cigarette, pick up stones, kill them. Throw the stones." But we ??? the SS, "Less, there will be less for us," because you know, the Russians had plenty of soldiers ??? and they were so rough and tough.
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