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Mala Weintraub Dorfman - September 15, 2005

And you had, you lived among, you said, Volksdeutsche, so you lived among non-Jews.

No, then we moved over there, but. Just before the war uh, broke out, we lived someplace else, not with uh, the, the Germans, no, no.

When you were younger, do you remember any incidents of anti-Semitism?

I remember there was a pogrom. This... I was a little girl. That's all I know. My father said, it's a pogrom, we have to move away from here. So, we moved away from there and we went to another part of the city.

Do you remember Piłsudski?

From school.

Just from school.

Just from school and then he had a monument, Piłsudski. That's all I know about it.

So, do you think maybe after he died things got worse?

I think so, yes it did, yes it did, yes. It got worse.

So, you lived in the, in the center of the city and then you moved.

Where we lived the first time it was in the city, but then we moved opposite way, away from that city.

To a Jewish neighborhood?

It was mostly Jewish. My grandmother, he had a store there, not far from us and all that, but it was more Jewish, yeah.

It wasn't by Bałuty, was it?

Hm?

It wasn't...

No, not Bałuty... No, no, no, no.

That's where the ghetto was.

It was near ??? It was near ??? where we moved.

???

In a different uh, area.

Central, central square. Is that what ??? means?

Yeah. Central square, right, right, right. Then we moved close by. There we lived until the war broke out.