Rose Wagner - August 14, 2002
Father
What was it like in your house when all this was going on?
Very quiet. You know, quiet. Didn't talk to each other somehow. We didn't know what to do. My father got so quiet. He was a very educated man. He just didn't, didn't--it was not the same.
After...
He just kept to himself. He knew it's not good and he knew that he's going to die. I guess. 'Cause ??? I was. I just--was unreal.
But you don't know what happened to him in that prison.
Pardon?
You don't know what they did to him there?
To who?
In the prison. To your father.
Oh my father. We knew they inte...inte...they were talking to him because he was president of a business association.
Yeah. But did they beat him, did they...
Oh yeah. He came back he had bruises on his body. And my mother went to Warsaw to get him out. And she had somebody there and somebody and that guy was really nice. He helped, he helped her to get him out of prison there. When he came back he was not the same.
Was it Pawiak prison?
I don't know what kind, I don't know what kind of prison it was in Warsaw. But I know he was in prison. In fact, in the papers here I wrote about it. See, when I wrote those papers it was right in 1955.
'55.
So I knew a lot.
Yeah.
I knew a lot of things.
Well you still do a lot.
Yeah.
Um, anything else you'd like to say about this.
Not really.
Would you like copies for your children?
That would be nice.
Yeah, okay...
That would be nice...
We'll, we'll be able to do that. Um... 58
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