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Miriam Troostwyk - May 28, 1998 and June 3, 1999

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And then uh, I said to him, "Do you want to come on my party tomorrow?" He said, "Yes." I said, "I have a very good girlfriend in Amsterdam, would you pick her up and take her to my party?" "Yes, I will." So he came with my friend from school. And I was working in Amersfoort uh, because I was twenty, I was working there. And she was in a school for designers next to the Rijk Museum. And she could draw beautifully. And we were for lunch always together when I was in uh, Amsterdam working. And we went together to school. She was in the camp in Indonesia um, the Japanese at...

Well, what...

And she was my girlfriend...

How...

because we understood, we were on the same level.

Uh-huh.

And we could talk. And she had troubles with--she was very intelligent, but she had troubles to overcome the three years, to overlap and I had it too.

Of course.

So we were very good friends. And so I came with her and he came with twenty red roses. And I always talk, [laughs] so I said, "Do you know what red roses mean?" He said, "Yes, but I couldn't get something else."

[laughs]

[laughs] So I thought, well, that is funny what he's saying, I like that. And then he came in and he said, "Well, you have here a lot of flowers. You have ten red carnations and--twenty red carnations, from whom are they?" I said, "That is from my boss. He sent me twenty red carnations."