Have, have either of you told your stories to other people?
ZF: I don't know about Baruch. I wanted to say one thing: until, until about 15 years-10 or 15 years ago I wouldn't have mentioned any of this. For me, I wasn't a Holocaust survivor. We were the lucky ones. We have nothing to tell. Nobody killed us, we stayed alive. After w...uh, you know, uh, we just didn't, we didn't-never talked about this at all until many, many years later until I had my own children so we changed and the atmosphere also changed so uh, but at the beginning uh, Baruch?
BS: Hmm?
ZF: You too. We never talked about where-what we went through let's say in England or things like that.
BS: ???
ZF: No, we thou...we thought that we were the lucky ones.
BS: Yes, we were lucky.
ZF: We're the lucky ones...
BS: Very lucky.
ZF: ...we got out. It was like that that we wouldn't get out.
BS: I heard that ??? there were a lot of children who wanted to but came too late. If it's too late, they couldn't get to England anymore. It would've been-when the war broke out-finished and I imagine they landed in Auschwitz or somewhere like that.
Yeah. Well, the last train-there's apparently only one or two...
ZF: Yes...
...children who survived.
ZF: ...one, one survivor is for cl...for sure, the other one they are not sure of.
Ruth Federman.
ZF: Ruth Federman, yes.
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