Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Baruch Spergel - February 4, 2008

Thoughts on the British

ZF: We had a respect for the-this I must say-for the English, for the British, for-I remember going down into the Underground and there were thousands of people...

BS: Hmm?

ZF: ...were sleeping there. In the Underground...

BS: Yeah.

ZF: ...thousands of people were sleeping there...

BS: Yes.

ZF: We took a bus-we took a, a, you know, an Underground...

BS: There were beds. Every, every, every station in the Underground was occupied...

ZF: People were sleeping

BS: ...by people, uh...

ZF: People walking left their houses there and went to sleep in the Underground and there thousands of people there with children and it was quiet. They were sort of, I don't know. It's, it's amazing. It's, it's a memory of people being there-they weren't-how should I say? They weren't-there were no hysterics. It is-was not an acceptance of the situation but now they're here and here they're safe and that's it and you don't make a noise about things and you don't make uh, none of this crying, "I want this, I want that. Fix this."

Was that a role model for you?

ZF: For me, yes, I remember-but I think my children are very much against this role. They, I mean they say that my-what I expected of them was something that is not normal. Maybe. That's the way I am. Maybe because I lived through a time like that um, when nothing was normal and you no long...you no longer know what normal behavior is.

What's civilized.

ZF: What?

What's civilized.

ZF: What's civilized, yes, civilized, yes.

And do, do you have the same feelings for...

BS: Hmm?

Do you have the same feelings for the British?

ZF: Respect...

BS: For British?

ZF: ...respect for them.

BS: I like the British. I liked them, um...

ZF: I had very good memories of them.

BS: ??? really civilized people. I mean, I think about...


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