How long did this go on? This was in...
I started uh, my hiding episode in August '43 and it lasted 'til May '45, 'til the end of the war. I was there all the time. At one time, when another relative of the farmer's wife was hiding in that uh, hiding place, when we had to use at night a pail to urinate in, I must have missed the target. I'll explain how we found out. I came down when the time was--arrived in the morning when it was permitted to come out, which was usually around nine or ten. We, we were kept there quiet long because--safe better safe than sorry. Uh, this is how the farmer's wife thought probably. I urinated myself and I noticed a red color of the urine, which it could be u...due to beet or whatever. I didn't pay too much attention to it. When I entered the kitchen, which was next to the entrance hall to wash myself, the farmer's wife asked, "Is anything the matter with you?" I say "No, why?" And then she pointed her finger on the wall and it was there a narrow red line. I had obviously urinated bloody urine next to the pail and it had come through the cracks betwe...of the uh, wooden uh, ceiling and so on down there. From then on, I was under doctor's care, the doctor which was called in, which was a trustworthy doctor. He said, from now on he has to stay not in that place, he has to be where he can be easily accessed. And I was given a salt-free, protein high diet. Now then pro...high protein... They, they bought a carp for me, somebody could get hold of a carp. I love carp normally. It was without salt. It was awful, the taste. But it was good protein, so I tried it. Also later on, I was introduced willy nilly by the farmer's wife to pork's fat, which I was, I was not told what it was. It was on my plate and I ate it and it tasted and it tasted excellent to me. Uh, and then later on, she said you know what you have eaten. And then from then on I quit uh, holding kosher. Uh, I was, up until that time I was keeping as kosher as I could, which mean, meant that I, I would not eat any meat. Uh, I might have some eggs for protein. I remember at one time that I was eating the peels of apples or pears and at one time even ate the peel, the outer peel of peanuts, which somehow we had there.
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And from then on, especially with the farmer doing the slaughtering there we got some parts of the organs, such as kidney and the liver and so on. I ate anything that I could.
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