Marvin Kozlowski - August 28, 2002
Talking about Experiences
How much did you talk about this after the war?
I didn't talk much at all.
Why?
Not at all.
Why not?
I was numb. It reminded and brought back. I was in tears. I was, was sick, was boiling inside me.
And were you angry?
Yes, I was angry. I was angry at myself, I was angry at God. I was angry at other countries, I was angry at United States. I was ??? I was angry at the whole world. The few ships that were able to take off, they sent them back.
The St. Louis? They came to power.
You didn't say you were angry at the Germans.
Wife: Angry at the Germans.
The Germans, that shows a culture, a culture shows you. That they made god out of him. I forgot to tell you, when I spoke to that person and I had no way to back out of when the conversation about why do they mistreat Jews. He said, "Hast du Gott gesehen?" he was with his foot like this
Wife: Yeah...
"Aus gemacht! Our Fuhrer is the god!" So, what are you going to say? That was a, a officer from the Wehrmacht.
And you said you lost faith in God too.
Huh?
You lost faith in God?
Yes, no question about it.
Still?
Well.
Wife: He's lucky he has me, so...
Uh, look, we all have to believe in somebody. I would never tell this my kids butt I'm telling you because I don't want to confuse them. But, I wonder if there would be no religion at all, maybe the world would be better. One religion hates the other one. You see now what's happening in the world now. They--the Muslims would like should be one religion. There should be no, nobody else was left.
Wife: Their religion.
Their religion. So.
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