Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Martin Koby - April 20, 1999


...you--we've talked occasionally more than just a couple times about things that touch off memories, um you know, on a daily--maybe--or a regular basis. A wooden spoon?


Uh, um, stew. Um, any other things that do that, that you--that you can pinpoint?

I don't know.

You work in, you work in Oak Park--you work...


Okay. You work at the--at the um...

Farmer Jack's pharmacy, yeah.

Farmer Jack's Pharmaceutical. And uh, you see black people all the time.

All the time.

And you--your description of the first time you saw a black person...

Was different.

...was um--was marvelous. Now I'm--does, does that come back to you every time--every time?

Oh, yes. When I see a big, tall man, a black man...


...nice you know, erect...


...it's nice, nice looking man.


I don't seem ???...

So that happens regularly.

Maybe, I don't know.

I mean, you see these--does this...

A black lady comes in nicely dressed--the camp...


...you know, she's a woman. I'm talking about a--you know, I had a--first experience with a, with a black man on the other side of the wire...


...in a uniform. It was very nice. It--??? it was nice, it was different, you know.


Here's a human being, different color, looks different too. But the outline, the frame you know, the, the, the--it was like any other one.

Uh-huh. What about at night? Are you troubled--did you--were you or are you troubled in your sleep if ever?


You don't...


...have nightmares about what happened.

Oh, once in a while I have some crazy dreams but uh, nothing unusual.

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