Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Salvatore and Lili Katan - August 18, 1981


LK: The only trouble was when we came here we didn't have a chance to go to school because he was working nights and I had the two small babies so I never--we never...

SK: ???

LK: ...we never had a chance to go to school. The only time that we went when after five years...

SK: Is for our citizen papers.

LK: ...we want to be citizens, you know? So we went for the citizen papers and then they said, "You have to go to school..."

SK: Know Constitution of the United States, how many presidents and how many senators and...

LK: And I say something we have to go??? and at two o'clock he woke up, "Ask me questions." You know why? Because then it was very hard in Indianapolis not like here.

SK: Here it was easy to get American citizenship, not like there.

LK: ??? you know, it was nothing. There if you didn't know the oath by heart you couldn't even go, okay? Then they give you 180 questions and you have to know the answer because they don't know...

SK: Which one they are going to ask you.

LK: ...what--which one they ask you. So I tell you something, ??? ask him the questions

SK: I was driving, I was driving, I was driving at the warehouse the hilo...

LK: And he was thinking...

SK: ...and I used to put the paper in front of me and study, you know. I used to go home sometimes--I used to go in bed, and I said, "Listen to this. If I'm saying..."

LK: He was terrible, I tell you. You know, people really do...

Woman: No wonder--there was probably more people here that had to take those test so they probably make them a little easier. In Indianapolis there probably weren't that many people.

LK: Correct, correct...

SK: ???

How much school did you have before the war?

LK: Before the war--unfortunately I didn't finish it. I just had school middle and two gymnasium.

That's the equivalent of all of high school here.

LK: Yeah.

It's--well that's beyond that actually. Gymnasium is the equivalent of junior college.

LK: Yeah.

And your father, what did your father do?

Woman: How did you happen to come to Indianapolis? From Italy you went to Indianapolis?

LK: My father--I'm sorry, what did you ask?

SK: Because we were ??? there from America.

What did your father do?

LK: What he did? That's what I say. We had a store. We had a store from how you colored yeah, like yarns and ??? and textile.


LK: All different. Everything hand good.

Yeah. I think we've kept them.

Woman: I feel like I missed out...

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