Emerich Grinbaum - October 3, 2000 & January 8, 2001
Warsaw Rebellion
The Russians are there.
Not only. The uprising started. Russians were very close. But you know the Russians didn't want to get in because that was, the uprising not the communist uprising. They uh, Wojsko, Wojsko Krajowa. There was Wojsko Krajowa, Wojsko Ludowa. You know, they're two parties. Uh, I didn't, we didn't know at that time. I read later. So uh, and we saw...
This is the Armia Kr...
Pardon me?
This is the Armia Krajowa.
Krajowa, the army and the Ludowa, that's the, the, but the, the people who uh, the uprising was not a communist one, you know.
Right.
And the Russians wanted uh, wait until Germans and they kill each other. The Polish cannot forgive them among other things. And, and uh, and we did--didn't go out at that time to work, I remember, we stayed there. And the next day they gathered us on the Appellplatz. You are expert, you know. Appell, Appell is always a terrible thing. You--I, I don't have to tell you because you heard many times already about the Appells. Appell, which the morning and the evening for hours. And Appell, big Appellplatz. And we saw that something is going to happen. And they told us that we have to go, we have to leave this area. Because the uprising was and the Russian was close. They wanted to clean up the whole thing. And, who cannot walk. They were--you're taken train, by train or by car. And we knew that that's what does it mean. But some stupid people were sick and elderly, elderly. You were fifty that was, you were very old there, you know.
They were shot.
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