Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Emerich Grinbaum - October 3, 2000 & January 8, 2001

Hungarian Rule

So you think they weren't sure how the Hungarians would react.

React, yeah. Because--so, no, no, they.

But the Ukrainians, they...

No, no the, the U...the, the, the Hungarian police took them, not the Germans. In '42 there were no Germans there.

But the, but the Hungarian police weren't sure about the Hungarian civilians.

See, yeah sure, no. So they, they didn't kill them. That was, except some maybe small chi...but they took them away to Ukraine--to Galicia and then they killed them.

So this is 1941 now when the, when the...

The war against Russia started.

When they declared war against Russia.


What, what did you make of all this? You were eleven years old?


Were you politically aware?

Very much. My first reminiscence you know, we were always as this. I even remember the 1938 Anschluß, Ansch...you know when they conquered Austria. Usually eight year old boy, but I was very much interested. I was listening to the radio and...

You heard it on a radio.

Radio, we had radio.

Did you read the newspapers as well?

Newspapers right, I was political. And when the Hungarian came, end of '38, you know, we--I know every detail, detail. I, I remember uh, everything.

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