Voice/Vision Holocaust Survivor Oral History Archive

Erna Blitzer Gorman - April 26, 1984


Of the nine people who lived in the house, how many have... how many of you survived?

None of 'em, except us.

Just your, your sister and your father.

Yeah. Um, I, I, I made a tape of this, another sequence, which I'm not sure I should talk about it on this tape.

Well, why don't you just tell me what you think, um...

It's person...

It's important in the story.

It's important of my, me uh, I...

It's all I want to know about.

Uh, why don't you stop it. I remember the last, the other pogrom that I remember is, um... Oh no, it wasn't even a, it was like... I was outside with another child and, and uh, there were some people, two people being chased and um, some... somebody ran by us and asked us in which direction they went and, and um, we pointed, um... So um, I think those people died.

People ran by you and then someone else came after them? Do you remember what they... who they were, what they were like?

It was a man and a woman.

Being chased.


And who was chasing them?

I, I, I... Must have been militia there.

Were they uniformed?

Yeah, dark gray type of uniform.

How do you know they died?

Well because, you know, I, I knew I shouldn't have done that the moment I... we pointed. You know, it's funny, even as a kid, I knew I shouldn't have done that and I never told anybody. But I, you know, I remember hearing in the house told that a couple died and I put in two and two together. And um, I never told this to anyone.

Were you frightened?

I don't know. I just shouldn't have done it.

But when the troops came up to you, you, how old were you, six?

I suppose. I don't know how old I was. Yes. I don't know. I suppose I was frightened. I, I don't know. I just knew the moment I pointed that I shouldn't have.

But did they have guns?

I don't remember.

This was near a woods of some sort? Did you tell me?

No, it was uh, in the last place that I remember um, which was like a little house on a little hill. There were several houses. That's, uh...

Do you see those people still?

I didn't all these years, but now I do. Uh...

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