• Contents
• Map
• Audio

Joseph Gringlas - March 18, 1993

Tell me about Marcy.

Marcy? Marcy is-as a kid in school, after the war we came toUnited States, lived in North Park. They, they found out in school that uh,she's got musical talent. So eh, she was only five, six years old. And uh,we found out that she was talent. And that time where we, you know, I wasworking and it was, we're not financial-we're not be able to do things. Butwe found out she has talent we gave her private lessons for a few years. Thenwhen she graduated from high school she was, went to eh, music in Indiana.And before that in, she went, went after a few years taking private schools,she was playing with the youth, youth, International Youth Symphony orchestrafrom Canada. And she played in the symphony, in, in youth symphony, they hadyouth symphony in Detroit too. And after being in-she went to Indiana uh,Bloomington, Indiana for music, starting music. Then she was sent to-scholarshipto Vienna for a year. In Vienna she was a year there and she came back and,and then at that time she was able to meet the ambassador from United Statesin Vienna. She-so she felt more like having somebody to come in to some place,so and she had good time while being there with that American ambassador.They gave her a lot of help, helping out those kids, where the. When she cameback in, she went-she graduated, finished eh, university in Indiana, college.And she went to New York starting Columbia. It wasn't enough uh, finishingcollege, she went for master degree in Columbia. And she was there a few yearsin Columbia, she graduated from Columbia.

But not in music.

Hm?

Not in music.

Not in music, no. In Columbia she went-taking for special childreneducation, development, little. And she worked there for hospital for Spanishchildren, while being in Columbia. And then she graduated Columbia. And shemet, got married in New York, which is my son-in-law now.

What's his name?

Joel Greenberg. And uh, they settled-after they got married theysettled in Washington. My son-in-law was uh, finish uh, uh, law degree inschool in New York. I don't know exactly the name of the school. And he wasin Washington and he got a job to work with the Justice Department for, inthe, for the investigating of the Nazis, what they did during the war.

The Office of Special...

Office of Special, Special Investigation. Which made me feelgood that my son in law is working with this, investigating Nazis. And when,when he used to come visit to Detroit and when I used to-I went to work Itook him downtown, my son in law, I said, "He's going to investigate," I said,"Let me investigate them, I would investigate them, I would know how to askthem." Eh, and living in Washington for a, for a year or two and they movedto Philadelphia, which my son in law eh, joined his friends at a company,Susquehanna it's called. And, and he joined with them. So they moved fromPhiladelphia to-moved from Washington to Philadelphia. And they live now inPhiladelphia and they have two children. Very wonderful eh, they were, mydaughter's really and my son, they really, really care about us very much.

I know.

They're wonderful children.

When your granddaughter was born-your first grandchild isSara.

Yeah.

Who is she named after?

She is named after my wife's family. Sara Kiesler. Uh, becauseuh, yeah, when Jake was born they named him aft...after my own brother, that'smy brother in that picture. His name was Yakov. So he was named, she uh, Jakewas named after his name.

When your, when your granddaughter was born, what went throughyour mind?

Oh, my granddaughter was born it was a good feeling because Inever, never imagine my life I will see, even, after the war, I-when we survivedwe couldn't imagine there were some Jewish girls at all left. 'Cause wenton in, in there and when I, I was married and I had my daughter and son. Andthen when my daughter was married and had that grandchild, first gra...grandchildwas born, I was really happy because never in my dreams I would dream thatI would have a family and I made a life and have and have grandchildren. Soit was, it was a wonderful feeling, that brought I build normalcy in life,to have continuation of our-from, from us.