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Joseph Gringlas - January 22, 1993

L...l...let me start another track and then we'll come backto talking about your grandchildren, as, as well as your children. Um, yourexperiences, did they affect the way you lived your life afterwards? Day today for example.

It was aff...I guess, It must affect them too. You know withLarry, I don't know if you heard about. Larry thought uh, in school he didn'twant to bring, bring in some friends because he thought I, I don't speak theEnglish quite well, so. And then he found out that why, what, what happened,that we, we weren't born in this country, we came from Europe. And then hefound out little by little what we went through, you know.

Did you tell him? Well, obviously you told Larry.

Yeah it-sometimes talking with, especially when my brother camewe started talking. They hear, you thought they don't hear, but they listento, but they hear what's, what. So they got some, got a feeling what happenedand probably.

Until Larry asked you about it...Until Larry asked you, whenhe was at the University of Michigan, about your experiences, had you eversat down with either of the children?

Not, not eh, you mean, in general not much, but for just some-tellingsome stories we went through but, you know. 'Cause I didn't want them to,nothing to, happy things to tell them and I might cause them to be-feel badabout it, so. Just in general, not, not too long to sitting down and talkabout it. But then later on, about uh, five years later, I guess they learna lot from other people and that's going on-went on. Reading books. So he,one time he said, "Dad why don't you sit down and write, write about yourstory."