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Joseph Gringlas - January 22, 1993

What did you do that one year in Landsberg? Uh, you went toschool...

I went to school.

got an education.

Electronics, you know.

Uh, but you were all alone.

Yeah, I was alone. And then I was sent uh, went to a differentcamp though. I was in Essling in Stuttgart. That was a, that was a, like arehabilitation called center and I learned radio electronics. And then I-we-sentto Passau, around border with Austria. Went there, a year there. All electronics,working there.

Was this through the Army?

Eh, no, this was ORT school.

ORT.

Yeah, ORT. Those are the-those were the school that, that suppliedeverything for education for electronics. And we had uh, I mean the engineerswas Germans. They told kinda stories, how during the war how they were toldthey win the war they're gonna, everyone's gonna have villages and livinglike kings.

Did you exchange stories with them?

Yeah, we exchanged.

Did you tell them where you were?

Ah, they knew exactly.

They did.

They did.

You didn't make friends with them? Or did you make.

Not eh, just speaking to them, but not

You were with other Jews. Were you with other Jews?

Yeah. There were other boys.

Uh, so you had friends there.

Yeah, Mm-hm.