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Joseph Gringlas - January 22, 1993

What was the barracks like?

The barracks was uh, long barracks. They were put togeth...itwas like, between, it was like from wood made out to sleep, to lay down onthat barracks. And, and you couldn't-you had to be so close to each other,there was not much room to stretch out. It was like laying next to each other,so.

More than one on each.

It was two levels, you know, one on top of the other one.

Did you sleep next to somebody else?

Yeah, I, I remember one time, it was at night and I don't know,you couldn't sleep because you were hungry. You couldn't sleep. So the SScame in. It was-they didn't put the light on. So he had a flashlight and nextto me he was pulling by the legs out of the-from the-from that-where he waslaying and pulled him down. And I saw him, him taken out of the barracks.Picked up-like a s...each one, so I was next to him. Who-how, how close canyou get? He pulled him out of my-of the line, next to me.

Why did he pull him out?

Pulled him out to take him to the crema...crematoria.

To the crematoria.

Yeah.

Just...

Just like that.

Just like that.

Yeah. Dis...distract me and I never forget.

Um, you, you became a pupil of the Kapo.

Yeah. Mm-hm, pupil, that's right.

This was at Buna?

In Buna.

And...

Kapo.