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Emerich Grinbaum - October 3, 2000

On a train. That was terrible. First of all, part of the peopledied during the march. Then we stayed-before the train we stayed in a forestand we had a lot of rain and we were, but nobody got pneumonia, I don't-maybethey got pneumonia, at least we didn't got pneumonia. And they put us in the,in the, in a car.

Closed car?

Closed. The same, closed car.

??? closed car.

And they give us-you wouldn't believe-some salty meat uh, cans.Salty. Believe me or not. Especially, can you imagine, everybody was hungry.We didn't think about that after salty. And that uh, uh, was the most terriblething. In this car it took us several days, I don't know how many days. Nowater until we arrived to Dachau. Half of the people in the, the-thatI remember-died. That I remember.

Because of the salt.

The salt and no water and heat, August heat. That's terrible.That's terrible. The, there, and-so we arrived there in Dachau later on.

Do you remember any specifics about the train? I mean, uh...

I can tell you an interesting story about the train. Even beforein, in Auschwitz, my father had a friend, his name was Ringler. I rememberhim-very good friend. And when cleaning the debris, he found some jewelry.You know, jewelry under the, the debris. I don't know how much, but you knowyou cannot keep the jewelry.

Yeah, no.

You know.