So you set out for a displaced persons camp.
Well, at first I set out for Poland. We couldn't get into Germany.Don't forget. It was a border. There was Poland. There was Poland. So we setout to Poland. And we came to Stettin. Stettin is on the uh, German-Polishborder. And uh, at that time, was how do you cross the border? So they hadalready black marketeering groups that were uh, hiring trucks and, and um,bribing the guards, bribing the, the guards on the, on the border borderand transporting Jews from Poland into Germany. That's how I came into Berlin.And in Berlin there were three displaced persons camps. Each camptwocamps were about 3,000. And I lived in a small camp, about 200.
Under which, which jurisdiction?
I lived in the, the camp of the 200 was in the French. You know,Berlin was divided into four. So two were in the American zone and I was inthe French, in the French zone. And there was the Russian, the Russian, wewere afraid of the Russians.
Well, well how did you feel about the Russians?
I, I have a sentiment for the Russians. When I think back, wheneverybody abandoned us, nobody wanted us, the Russians put out trains andthey said, you come to us. You come to us and we'll, and we'll live together.I'll never forget that this is true. That was in 1941 when the war started.Nobody wanted us. And the, and the Jews that, that um, that um, evacuatedinto deep Russia, they survived. That's a plain uh, fact.
And they were the partisans?
Pardon me?
And they were the Russian partisans?
And they were the Russian partisans, yes.
Some of them.
Some of them. A lot of them were killed, a lot. By the thousands.Thereit was an exceptionally good organization, the partisans. It wasan excellent organization. You know, it's, it's, it's ait's a wrongcomparison, but fight terrorists they'repartisans were terrorists. ..
Hm.
for theyou know, for the Germans, they were terrorists.It's hard to fight terrorists in the background. And that's where the partisanswere. They werethey, they really were a hindrance to the German Front.
Have youdid you keep in touch with any of these people?
Yes. I, I have friends in Israel. I have friends in uh, Chicagoand in Cleveland. And we come together in the wintertime to Florida. We sitand we reminisce about the timesthe, the ones that I was in the forestwith.
But none of the Russian partisans, you keep in touch with.. .
No.
just the Jewish partisans.
No, none of the Russian partisans.
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